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can my neighbor go to jail for this??? im furious!!!?
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Alateixe     Reply with quote
l live in the city and my family works so we cant drive up to see chelsea(my horse) or take care of him all the time so we have a person a neighbror we pay to watch it..he lives the next farm over anyway lately it has been really cold where we live and it even snowed last night...this is so hard to type....so when l went to see chelsea today l found her outside the barn she froze to death cuz the $$hole let her out to clean out the barn she sleeps in and left it closed,..... there were hoof marks where the horse tried to get inside......my question is can l sue this guy or can l take it even higher up to like criminal charges cuz that horse was a part of my family l feel like l lost a big brother...he was younger than me but l mean just bigger cuz he took care of me n made happy when life got me down he was all l really had to look forward to since my grandma died last february of hypothermea...so can l call the police and report him for abuse or what can l do l dont think l can now cuz l jus brake down and cry whenever l try to express myself...plz help this guy has to pay 4 what he did he didnt even apologize he tried to make it like its our fault we werent here yesterday cuz usually we drive up on saturdays even though WE PAY HIM TO DO THIS im so mad what can l do thanks fellow horseowners im sure u can understand what im going through
Beert     Reply with quote
I'd talk to a lawyer and see what your options are.
Star Rider     Reply with quote
Do you have paperwork that shows you pay him to be a caretaker? If so, you have a case.
User     Reply with quote
Yes, you can. The most basic of all animal cruelty legislature is that animals MUST have access to food, water, and shelter. By denying your horse these basic needs, he has broken the law, and you should DEFINITELY look into having him brought up on animal cruelty charges, and possibly destruction of property? l am not as familiar with those.
Coach     Reply with quote
l do not know the exact laws, but l do know that denying pet animals shelter is a misdemeanor. Animal Rights are absolutley horrible in this country, but by preventing the horse from its shelter, that is negligence and it is only a misdemeanor. You might be able to get more on him for destruction of property. l suggest talking to a lawyer. Maybe call animal control and get their thoughts.
Kim     Reply with quote
First thing you do is make a police report for animal neglect. Have the animal control officer involved also. He can be arrested for animal abuse and neglect. He was paid to provide a service to you and your horse and did not. Call the humane society in your area also. He may be arrested by one of the above agencies.
You have my sympathy.God Bless.
Lostyo     Reply with quote
l would definately think that the police could be involved. We live in a Northern State where it gets COOOOOLLLLLDDDDD, and if people do not take care of protecting their animals in the cold, they can get in trouble for animal cruelty/neglect. Your neighbor was responsible for caring for the animal, his neglect is unbelievable!!!
Bobyer     Reply with quote
talk to a lawer, but if you can do anything, it would probably just take him up on animal cruelty.
Kickshaw     Reply with quote
Unless this horse was body clipped and without blankets.. it did not freeze to death.

You need to have an autopsy done to prove your case.

EDIT= you go through alot of horses do not ya. and your a sue happy person :) Nice trolling

The first question you asked, is similar to this, my suggestion is.. go back to breyers and stop wasting ppls time.
Lemon     Reply with quote
of course if you were paying him and he did not to his job then heck yea . and im so sorry for you loss. (R.I.P) . also your neighbor should have watched him. and im so sorry and depending on what you pay him you can ge that amount in double the cash . and again im so sorry for your loss. l hope all goes well
couzo     Reply with quote
Oh my.. first of all l am deeply sorry for ur loss & it brings tears to my eyes reading u blog. l also feel very angry

First thigs first call the police & she what they have to say about this particular matter then l recommend u seek legal advice thu a lawyer!!! altho u might have a problem if u didnt have a contract writen up for the agreement of looking after ur horse. You could also seek some advice thu ur local animal management firm & see if there is anyway they can help u obtain a lawyer at a lesser price as u r younger & probably dont have the funds to support ur cause unless ur parents do. l know in Australia we have animal lawyers as my best friend is one... l wish u all the best of luck with this case & please keep us updated on what is happening!!

Once again my most sincerest condolences to u over ur special friend xxoo
Callaway     Reply with quote
my sympathies on the loss of your fur baby, Chelsea. yes, i'd say you have a case. here in alabama animal cruelty became a felony,punishable by up to 5 yrs in prison and a several hundred thousand dollar fine. i'd get a lawyer,and call the police. if you do not have a criminal case, you'd most definitely have a civil one,as horses are considered property.
Que     Reply with quote
thats horrible!

if u have proof that ur neighbour was being paid to take care of ur horse then yes l think u should definitely look into sueing. if u dont have any written proof, sueing wouldnt be the best idea because as far as the courts r conserned, he was ur horse & ur responsibility the police may be able to help u though so l would contact them as soon as possible & explain the situation.

as far as im concerned l think ur neighbour deserves to rot in hell for what he did. as a horse owner myself, l know l wouldnt be able to bear if this happened to my horse.
my best wishes r with u & im terribly sorry for ur loss.
your in my prayers :)
Happy     Reply with quote
If that happened to my horse l would be pissed!!!

But horses do not freeze unless it is like -30 however it can be possible are you sure she did not colic or something?
krystal     Reply with quote
animal cruelty
omg l almost started crying. l am soooo sorry
that son of a BEEEEP needs to pay for what he has done
and turning it around on YOU when its HIS fault is UNCALLED FOR!
you paiD him to care for your horse, you did nothing wrong.

again l am so sorry and l hate people right now.
its okay just break down and let it all out.
Koenig     Reply with quote
yes. you can definitely file charges on that bastard. Obviously you would not leave a horse outside in the freezing cold without thinking twice. Plus if he was being paid to this he should've definitely been more responsible.

1. Animal Neglect
2. Animal Cruelty
3. And you can also have a Civil Case with this because horses are considered property.
laser     Reply with quote
Firstly, l am so sorry for ur loss. l can not imagine what you're going through right now. {hug}

Secondly, l agree with Mulereiner. You should get an autopsy so u have 100% proof on paper that it was this jerk is fault.
If u have written proof that it was his responsibility to take care of her & that he was being paid for his care, take that paperwork with ur autopsy report to a lawyer & see what case u have & what u can get this guy on.

Good luck, l hope that it all works out for you.
aeroz     Reply with quote
What role r u playing now?

First off.you refer to ur horse as both a he & a she.''she froze to death'' but yet u ''felt like u lost a brother''???

Perhaps ur family should consider moving to a warmer climate since ur grandmother died of hypothermia & now ur horse ''froze to death''?? Many horses r left out in the cold without freezing to death.what an unfortunate situation for you.

l would really try to move before u have another freeze occurence next winter.
Pink     Reply with quote
l cannot say anything more than the people before me, they have it pretty well covered. But l would say atleast see what ur options are, & dont give up! That is an absolutely horrible thing to happen, & ur neighbor should be held accountable. And he trying to blame u guys because u came up a day late is utter BS. If he had been caring for ur horse like he should, one day should not have killed it. And leaving the stall door closed is totally his fault.

l feel so sorry for you. l hope that u r able to hold him accountable in the court of law, or get some pay-back, although no court order could ever be able to replace ur horse.
Outlaw     Reply with quote
Maybe small claims court. Take photos.
ionus     Reply with quote
l agree. call a lawyer. That was terrible. l would probably die if l lost my mare (which sadly, l have to sell my mare :() but l am soooooooooooo sorry!!!!!!!!!! Thank God it has not snowed here in San Antonio, Tx since the late 80s! But still, that was cruelty to an animal, even if it was an accident.
Bad     Reply with quote
you have killed 2 horses, 1 Turtle stepped on its head, and how meany birds

go back to the video games troll

edit---go read his other questions b4 you fill bad for him/her
Maxim     Reply with quote
oh my god! l am so sorry. You can probably try to charge him with animal abuse, if the horse was abused on his watch then he can be charged.
mg     Reply with quote
That is apauling, l am soo sorry for you loss.
If that happened to me, l would take him to the police, you do not know if it can be taken to court or if he can be charged, but l would try with all my might to put that monster into jail. l am so sorry about your loss.
mule     Reply with quote
Oh my god, l am so sorry about your loss. I'd be lying if l said l knew how you feel but l can imagine
Talk to a lawyer, do your research and yes, you should be able to press charges
Once again l am truly sorry for your loss. l myself own 4 horses and l do not know what I'd do without them
Denzil     Reply with quote
Where do you live that it is that cold? l live in northern wisconsin and last week the wind chills were -45. None of our 12 horses froze to death-they have two run in barns and the woods to go to, but none of them are stall babies. You need an autopsy to prove the cause of death. It may have had some other type of underlying health issues. Yes, if it was denied shelter, that is a problem. You also need to prove that he intended to do harm to the animal.
taber     Reply with quote
Wow first your horse gets hit in traffic and his legs were broken and you wanted to sue.. then your grandma dies of hypothermia (who left her locked outside?) and now your horse has died because someone left him outside one night????? l dont think so. as your name impllies roleplayer, are you just looking for friends by trying to fit in? We will be your friends, just be honest
Mad     Reply with quote
Of course you can pursue legal action, and you should. You need to consult an attorney, ASAP. Take photos of the property and hoof marks if they're still visible.
Beert     Reply with quote
l am so sorry about ur loss. It is so hard losing a horse. :(

As for ur question:

In order for anything to go through as a court case, u would need a necropsy done on the horse to prove that the death was a direct result of negligence on the part of ur caretaker, rather than a freak natural incident. Horses do not just ''freeze to death'' just because it snowed. More than likely, there was something else behind this, whether it was advanced age, colic, etc. You need to have a necropsy done, regardless of whether u would be pursuing legal action, as it really does clear up any questions u may have about what really happened. It is not a pleasant thing to have to do, but it really does help with closure.

For a court case, You would also likely have to have proof (written or contractural) that this person was indeed supposed to be taking care of ur horse during the time that this happened.
Star Rider     Reply with quote
First off. l wonder if someone can sue u for wasting time, lying, & animal cruelty (neglect, poisoning wildlife- the birds, crushing a turtle is skull in as a 'humane' way of putting it down, & who knows all the other countless things you've probably done.).

Horses do not die from freezing to death unless he/she was very old, thin, or clipped.and even then it would have to be very cold for a horse to freeze to death. Some horses r outside 24/7 with temps down to -40 or -50 F & do just fine.in fact many horses prefer being outside in cold weather than inside.

If u r actually telling the truth, which l doubt, you're going to have a very hard time actually getting anywhere in court.you will need proof, a veterinarian done autopsy & report, & to get ur facts straight.such as the correct terminology for ''freezing to death'' would be death by hypothermia, as u should probably be familiar with since ur grandma supposedly died of it.

Dum De Dum Dum.''move before u have another freeze occurrence,'' that is a good one! You should take his/her advice.

~Btw, for those little birds u 'have to' kill, death by poison is not quick & easy- except maybe for you. Poison induced death is most often excruciating & a lot of times not all that quick either. You want a fast & easy death for them.try putting a little bullet & shooting it through the brain or heart, or heck, why do not u catch them & take them to the vet.
User     Reply with quote
Baloney!

It is very unlikely that your fictional horse froze to death as the result of not being in the stable. Horses that are outdoors actually stay warmer than those in the stable because they can run around to self regulate their body temperature.
Coach     Reply with quote
THAT IS HORRIBLE AND YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THAT IS ANIMAL CRUELTY. l AM SOOOOOOOOOOO SRY. :,-(
Kim     Reply with quote
YES ABSOLUTELY go to a lawyer. See what they say. If they tell you you sho--- you know what this infuriates me! Take it to a criminal justice system. For animal abuse/neglect l have no tolerance!
Lostyo     Reply with quote
l also agree that the likelihood of ur horse actually FREEZING to death is very unlikely. The horse would have had to have been outside in way below zero temperatures for it to have froze to death. Unless it was completely body clipped, it was very unlikely. l also do not think that the horse would have honestly put hoof marks on the barn trying to get in. Your story seems a little fake & like ur trying to get money out of ur neighbor. In my opinion, if u can not take care of ur own horse, then u do not need a horse. Your obviously not responsible enough to take care of a horse. It is not ur neighbor is fault. It is ur fault. Do not blame the neighbor for ur lies.
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